The tough economic times have taken quite a toll on the moving industry. The Chicago Tribune recently published this article about the effect of the economy on movers in Illinois. The effect appears to be doubled for moving companies since not only have home sales and thus the overall need for moving services declined but the decline of needs for other services has lead to a poaching of sorts of household moving jobs. This is evidenced here by the case of the carpenter posting his availability for moving services.
Opportunities abound for the extremely price conscious looking to save a buck and willing risk their belongings. “What’s a matter with saving money?” you may ask. There’s always a cost and in this case it’s the gamble that your move will go well. Here are the top three reasons to be concerned about hiring unlicensed movers for your next move.
No insurance – Even if you don’t pay for additional insurance, in most states and for all interstate moves, licensed moving companies must insure your belongings for some minimal value, typically $.60 per pound. It’s not much but at least it’s something. Furthermore, a licensed mover will inform you about this and supplemental coverage that provides more adequate reimbursement.
No experience – Hey, if I had a truck and maybe a trailer I could move your stuff too, but it might not arrive at your new home looking like it did when you left your old home. At least some of the staff at a licensed moving company will have many years of experience and most larger van lines require fairly substantial training regarding proper packing and loading to ensure protection of your valuables.
No reputation and no concern about reputation – Fly by night operators won’t have a reputation to fall back on and they aren’t looking to build one. They’re main concern is getting the next job and they’ll entice new customers with prices substantially lower than those of licensed movers. They may change names as necessary to escape a reputation that has gotten so bad as to garner publicity.
The main point to all this should come as no surprise…buyer beware.
We’ve written before about how trying to cut costs on moving by hiring the cheapest moving company can turn out to be a bad idea and unfortunately it’s happened again. In this article from KTVK Channel 3 News posted on azfamily.com we here about a bad move in Arizona where a Phoenix / Mesa area family thought they were getting the most for their money but ended up getting even less than they bargained for.
It’s disheartening but it seems to be even more true now than ever during these tight economic times that poor quality, low balling movers can succeed in drumming up business while leaving families with even more to worry about. Just another reminder that although it may seem like a good idea to bargain shop when looking for a moving company you may get what you pay for. So do your research, search the web for reviews, check the BBB and ask for references. Or just go to onesimplemove.com where we’ve done the work for you and you can find some of the best movers in your area.
You’ve probably heard that hiring a moving broker is not a good idea and can lead to very rough if not tragic move. As we’ve written about before in our article about avoiding moving brokers we recommend that you do not use moving brokers. It’s not just us, you can also read this article by the Washington Post and this article on White Fence. Or just Google “moving broker” and see the wonderful list of articles that appears.
The real question is how can you tell a moving broker from a moving company. Unfortunately it’s not that easy but I do have a couple of things that can help you if you’re looking online at websites and trying to find out if the company is just a broker.
1. Does the company appear faceless? In other words, are there any pictures of employees, the office, their trucks or anything else that “personalizes” the company? And I don’t mean stock photos of moving trucks or employees. Seeing real pictures makes it very likely it is not a broker.
2. Is the company an agent of a major van line? If you see any signs on the site that the company is an agent of United, Atlas, Allied, National, Global, Mayflower, North American, Paul Arpin, Bekins, Stevens, Joyce or any of the other major lines that I happen to be leaving out here it’s likely that it is not just a broker.
3. Does the company provide you with a history of the business? For example: when it was founded, if it’s a family business, how it started etc. If there’s any type of history provided it’s most likely not a broker.
4. Do they have a physical address listed on their website? This is not a for sure but mostmoving companies will list a physical address and most brokers will not.
Determining whether the company is a broker or not by reviewing the website is not an exact science but by looking at these elements you can usually get a good idea. And in most cases you can determine if it definitely is a moving company.
One last thing to remember is that many moving will still have to broker some moves but it does not mean that they are strictly brokers. They still have trucks, workers and moving experience with their own moving company and have more knowledge about the industry than a simple broker will. And if a moving company has to broker your move they are still a better bet than a broker but the ideal situation is using a company that will perform the entire move by themselves, with their workers and their trucks.
Remember, you have rights!
Unfortunately, only ethical movers follow the rules and allow you your rights. There are many, many good movers out there. Most movers are good people and want to help. They do not need laws to enforce ethical business practices. The only effective way to avoid trouble with your move is to detect a criminal mover before they are allowed to touch your items.
What to do and who to call Check up on a mover’s license: http://www.safersys.org/
You can type in the company name or the license # and find out if they have a valid license and if they have insurance coverage:
Dept. of Transportation Hot Line:
(888) 368-7238
Call this number to file a complaint with Department of Transportation. The DOT needs to know about the unethical practices of movers.
Watch Dog Committee for Moving Companies:
(202) 366-4553
This is part of the Division of Office of Enforcement & Compliance under the Federal Motor Carrier & Safety Administration. These folks have the authority to do something about it.
Division of Office of Enforcement & Compliance:
FMSA
400 7th St. S.W.
Washington, DC 20590
Ph: 202 366-4553
Fax: 202 366-3462
Special thanks to Jay Clithero of Sterling Van Lines for all the helpful information on scam and rogue movers.
Happy and safe moving this summer!
Sterling Van Lines, Inc. is a Los Angeles-based moving and storage company specializing in small moves. With over 50 years of combined moving experience, over 10,000 moves, and a reputation for quality in our industry, our goal is to customize our services to the needs of each customer — whether you’re moving your home or office, or just a few pieces, we’ll make your move worry free! Visit us at www.sterlingvanlines.com
Why are pounds important?
The known tariffs are based on mileage and pounds. You always have the right to have your things weighed at a certified weigh station. You can witness the light weight (before pickup) and the heavy weight (after pickup).
You meet the driver at the closest scale to your home and follow them back to the scale after pick up. You will have a certified weight ticket; you will then know the exact pounds.
Standard movers will be perfectly willing to accommodate you.
Is your “estimated” cost significantly lower than other estimates from major moving companies?
Your costs between movers should not vary that much, if you have an “estimated” cost that is too good to be true – it is too good to be true. The normal method of operation of these “Movers” is to quote very low, sound very nice and professional, then you will be informed on the day of pick up that you have a significant amount more than you reported and the cost will go up – usually about 2-3 times the original estimate.
By following the above guidelines you should be able to avoid “rogue movers”.
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Sterling Van Lines, Inc. is a Los Angeles-based moving and storage company specializing in small moves. With over 50 years of combined moving experience, over 10,000 moves, and a reputation for quality in our industry, our goal is to customize our services to the needs of each customer — whether you’re moving your home or office, or just a few pieces, we’ll make your move worry free! Visit us at www.sterlingvanlines.com
Does the “Mover” demand a deposit or ask for half the money up front?
Standard movers do not demand half of the money up front. Their service speaks for itself. Unless you require a very specific day or time it is highly unusual for a standard mover to need a deposit.
Did the “Mover” give you a guaranteed price?
If the mover guaranteed a price for cubic feet*, now you must know how to determine cubic feet, very few people know this or take the time to do it. You are thus under the complete mercy of the “Mover” and you could be taken advantage of. This should not be debated after the “Mover” picks up your things. If they are criminal, it is too late. The best rule if you are quoted in this fashion is to find another mover. If you really want to keep working with that mover there are a couple of ways to solve this:
If you have a decent size move, say, more than 2 bedrooms, have the mover come out and give you an estimate. If they won’t, have another mover who may be closer to you come out and see your things and give you an estimate. You want to know how many cubic feet and how many pounds the mover saw. That mover should be able to fix a price for you and the “Mover” who would not come out may be able to fix a price now. The point is, now you have data that you can share with other movers to get a quote.
If you have a smaller move, will the “mover” allow you to list your items and guarantee the price to move those items, in writing?
*Cubic Feet: Length X width X height, example: 2’ X 3’ X 4’ = 24 cubic feet. In inches the equation is: 24” X 15” X 30” = 10,800 cubic inches. To convert to feet do this: 10,800 ÷ 1728 = 6.25 cubic feet.
All movers want to know your cubic feet so they can convert it into pounds. The equation is generally 7 pounds per cubic foot so in the above example 24 cubic feet would convert to 24 X 7 = 168 pounds. 6.25 cubic feet would convert to 6.25 X 7 = 43.75 pounds.
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Sterling Van Lines, Inc. is a Los Angeles-based moving and storage company specializing in small moves. With over 50 years of combined moving experience, over 10,000 moves, and a reputation for quality in our industry, our goal is to customize our services to the needs of each customer — whether you’re moving your home or office, or just a few pieces, we’ll make your move worry free! Visit us at www.sterlingvanlines.com
Did the “Mover” “Quote” you by Cubic Feet?
If so, it is a virtual certainty that they are not operating from any known tariff. By law movers must have and subscribe to a published tariff. The tariff has all charges laid out and accounted for. You should find another mover!
Definition of a Tariff
List of charges for moving services published and filed with the surface transportation board (DOT).
(This definition is gleaned from existing data and experience in the moving industry.)
The American Heritage Dictionary defines tariff as:
“n. 1) A list or system of duties imposed by a government on imported or exported goods. 2) Any schedule of prices or fees.”
In order for a mover to get his authority to move, he must first file a tariff and it must be approved. Most U.S. movers used to use the tariff called the 400N. This is because it is a monumental task to formulate all the possible charges for all the possible moving services in all the possible cities of the U.S. Nowadays the movers are using a version of that or have made their own since 2008 saw the de-regulation of this tariff. The mover should be able to state what tariff he uses and the tariff must be published and available to the public for inspection.
It is almost unheard of for standard movers to quote customers by cubic feet. Movers who have been around a long time sometimes quote customers by the pound. This practice is dying out and you will usually get a quote that is based on a rate. The rate is based on mileage to your destination and the estimated number of pounds in your shipment. The mover will give you a discount off of the rate. No one will charge you 100% of the rate. The discount is driven up by competition. The older movers were used to giving a price per pound – this is done by simple division and is still based on the rate in the tariff.
Can the Mover tell you what tariff he is quoting from?
If not, you should run screaming into the night!
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Sterling Van Lines, Inc. is a Los Angeles-based moving and storage company specializing in small moves. With over 50 years of combined moving experience, over 10,000 moves, and a reputation for quality in our industry, our goal is to customize our services to the needs of each customer — whether you’re moving your home or office, or just a few pieces, we’ll make your move worry free! Visit us at www.sterlingvanlines.com
You find yourself quoting customers in terms of cubic feet
You won’t guarantee anything in writing
Your price is 1/3 of REAL mover’s prices
You can’t name the tariff you use to quote with
You find yourself talking to your customer with your cigarette still in your mouth!
You find three times more stuff than your customer “told you over the phone”
You won’t let your customer witness the weighing of his goods
You demand cash at pick up!
Your credit card machine is “broken” or “down”
You don’t seem to know where your customers’ goods are!
All jokes aside, if you are moving this summer – please be aware of scam and rogue movers. We’ll have more helpful information on scam and rogue movers from Jay Clithero of Sterling Van Lines throughout the summer – subscribe to our RSS feed to stay up-to-date!
Sterling Van Lines, Inc. is a Los Angeles-based moving and storage company specializing in small moves. With over 50 years of combined moving experience, over 10,000 moves, and a reputation for quality in our industry, our goal is to customize our services to the needs of each customer — whether you’re moving your home or office, or just a few pieces, we’ll make your move worry free! Visit us at www.sterlingvanlines.com
Check out this video from the NJ Warehousemen’s Association:
Moving Day: “My Life is on that Truck!”
While the clip is a bit reminiscent of middle school health videos from the 80’s, it has some solid advice that’s still applicable today.
We don’t have any relation with the New Jersey Warehousemen’s association (…yet), but Associations are usually a good place to start when looking for a mover. While no association can guarantee the quality of their moving companies, there is very little chance you will find a scam or rogue mover in their ranks.
Check out this clip on moving scams and what to watch out for, from NBC’s Today Show:
You know moving season is coming up when Matt Lauer is telling you to be careful when shopping for a mover!
(Note on Matt Lauer’s arm: According to US Magazine, Matt flipped over the handlebars of his motorcycle when a deer ran out in to the street – just in case you were wondering…)